Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Posts: 81 Location: Nova Scotia
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:54 am Post subject: Listening In on BushCo
One of the news sources I regularly check is Informationclearinghouse ( http://www.informationclearinghouse.info ). It allows readers to post comments on the articles.
I think the following exchange is quite relevant to Canada and beg your pardon for posting such a long message. I think it is worth reading by all of you.
Readers of the article by Michel Chossudovsky wrote:
Gravatar An awful lot of what is mentioned in this piece has already come to fruition.
Canada has re-organized her Armed forces to integrate into the US Armed Services. Witness "Canada Command", the over-arching Canadian military HQ for north of the 49th parallel.
Fits kinda neatly into the lexicon of existing US Commands, NorthCom, CentCom, SouthCom, and now CanCom.
Whatever you thought of Jean Chretien, at least he had the interests of Canada at heart, very unlike our present treasonous, past-his-Prime Minister who, unsatisfied with our past role of being a middle power, wants very much to be a 'player' on the world stage, and will prostitute my country to any length to achieve his egoist aims.
With the deliverance of Harper to the highest post in civil service in this country, we have, collectively, effectively renounced our sovereignty.
It seems that our Loyal Opposition is no better than the US Congress.
I feel like throwing up.
rgl | 08.19.07 - 1:54 pm | #
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Gravatar You think this is bad?
Wait until the next referendum in Quebec. Well, we were wondering what the corporatists' strategy might be, now we have it.
When Quebec leaves, Canada without a contiguous border will naturally gravitate towards their economic masters. I can't help but think that this is what this is all about.
Good luck Canucks!
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Turtle | 08.19.07 - 2:11 pm | #
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Gravatar rgl--this agreement was signed in 2002--under what is now the Opposition with Chretien as the signer.
Don't forget he campaigned on the fact that he would not sign FTA and then as his first act as PM he signed it!
Then the SPP was signed by the Corporate darling, Paul Martin as the leader of Canada and also a Liberal and member now, of the Loyal? Opposition! Yes, Harper has fallen in with the ultimate plan of Manifest Destiny for the US and we will lose our country.
George | 08.19.07 - 2:22 pm | #
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Gravatar So, Canadians - what are you going to do about it?
blizzard | 08.19.07 - 2:34 pm | #
Gravatar I don't think the Pentagon consulted with anyone in Mexico as to Northcom's responsibility for Mexico's territory.A bit presumtuous, to say the leasst.The real terrorists are in the White House and the Pentagon
Gustavo Caldas | 08.19.07 - 2:37 pm | #
Gravatar Who says marx was not a prophet?History does repeat its self!This is anschuss mk 2
paul | 08.19.07 - 2:47 pm | #
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Gravatar blizzard:
(Name like that, I was sure you was a Canuck .. lol)
Well. I cannot speak for any Canadian other than myself, but I think I will begin a letter campaign to the appropriate MPs, make sure that everybody I know is made aware of this, and encourage them to start bugging their MPs.
I am somewhat more confident of this action in Canada, than I would be if I were an American, (and no, not because of some misbegotten idea that we are moral, and you are not) simply because we have five political parties, vice two.
Not to mention a slew of 'fringe' parties that would be willing to take up any cause, if for no other reason than to get media exposure.
You have to admit that five parties are a lot more difficult to subvert than two (one?).
It is also somewhat of a comfort that a minority government is far and away more vulnerable than the monolithic one-party system that exists in the States.
Will we have any better luck than our confreres south of the border? Will I find the same degree of apathy north of the border that seems to exist south of the border?
I don't know. But I'm gonna find out.
rgl | 08.19.07 - 3:12 pm | #
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Gravatar US Citizens can no longer count on taking refuge in Canada.
Where are they to go?
Ideas anyone.
DeRein | 08.19.07 - 3:12 pm | #
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Gravatar It sounds like Canadians are being conditioned for their next prime minister, Mr. George Bush of the U.S. starting in 09. He's just too great and brilliant an asset to retire from public life.
With Cheney/Ashcroft installed in the U.S. after a surprise election victory, U.S. - Canadian cooperation will reach cordial new highs.
Professor Ku | 08.19.07 - 3:14 pm | #
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Gravatar I think I have made it plain that, done correctly, I am all for World Government. I still have to resolve my own issues with my nationality and the above statement, but it really is the only way forward to ensure not only the survival of the species, but as a means to a more equitable world.
But by consent. Not coercion.
I spent a quarter of my life as a rifleman in an infantry company. I thought I left that life behind, but if some group of pinheads tries to force this upon us without our consent, well then perhaps I should start boning up on past training.
Double-tap, centre of mass, first.
rgl | 08.19.07 - 3:28 pm | #
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Gravatar To my Canadian friends who are in the dark as much as American citizens: you have our sympathy. Believe me, we know as little about what is going on as you and certainly do not condone or support the dictorial realm that Bush has created and will continue to create....unless AMERICANS WAKE UP. So many people...so little awareness. How is this possible?...the educational system...the media..economics...lies and more lies..false flag operations ....arrogance...blind religious belief...on and on. We are being led by an administration and congress comprised of amoral, power hungry, greedy and thoughtless sub-humans. And those are the nice qualities. Tell your friends...speak up when you can. This is not a time to be tactful and quiet. Throw away your TVs and get ready to defend yourself against whatever is coming down the pike. DO NOT sit back and let it happen as they did in the Germany of the 30's. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! DON'T LET BUSH SUCCEED WHERE PRESCOTT BUSH FAILED. WE STOPPED THEM THEN AND WE CAN STOP THEM NOW.
Willy Bill | 08.19.07 - 3:48 pm | #
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Gravatar Want to contact your MP? Find the SOAB here...
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Gravatar So even BAFFIN ISLAND will get a "port"!!! On the bright side anyone wanting to visit Baffin Island, which I hear is remote, might be a little more comfortable.
Wow, I hope the Canadian people are paying attention. I would hate to see them become part of the U.S. just because they had their heads in the sand. It sounds like alot of this is happening while the populace is too busy with other things, sounds kind of familiar?
But on a brighter note since the Canadian people are so much more superiour and moral than Americans, I'm sure they will be able to end the State Sponsored terrorists of the U.S. once they realize they are complicit also.
I have heard several times by Canadians that "the Canadian people will never, ever allow the NAU and Amero". It would never pass parliament. But already it sounds like their parliament is back stabbing them.
What will the Canadians do?
Cat | 08.19.07 - 4:09 pm | #
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Gravatar Turtle,
This is not time for the Canadian people to be "nice". They are being backstabbed....nice is not going to cut it.
You guys need to stop it NOW, or you'll get swallowed real quick.
This is a test for the Canadian people. You will either pass or fail.
Cat | 08.19.07 - 4:12 pm | #
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Gravatar You got that right, Cat. Wake up, Turtle, they are selling the Canadians down the tubes just like this admin. and the congress have sold out Americans. Wonder if you folks have a national ID yet?..ours comes in May 08; then comes the implant. George Orwell has nothing on G. Bush. Rise up against the stagnation of apathy. It's up to the people now...God is not listening. TAKE THE POWER BACK!!
Willy Bill | 08.19.07 - 4:21 pm | #
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Gravatar being canadian makes me wanna puke. I warned so many people of this now i have to start putting up banners. i need some good lines from you people so that i can get these banners up and going. how about,
good lord i suck at such things. comeon people i need some help.
Helen from canada | 08.19.07 - 4:23 pm | #
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Gravatar ouch, how many of you have seen the natrual bbeauty of Canada?? I have and it's breath taking. ok if that is the way bush is gonna be i am gonna team up with canada to make sure bush doesn't screw up everything. someone please put a hole in his head.
Bluetiger | 08.19.07 - 4:28 pm | #
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Gravatar What am I doing about it?
-wrote my Minister of Parliament
-wrote the Prime Minister
-wrote to the major newpapers berating them their poor coverage of this issue.
-sent this article to friends and family
-going to a protest rally tomorrow
This would be a travesty to our country. However, the powers that be are easily bought. This time, bought with tainted, corrupt, dirty, dirty money.
Disgusted Canadian | 08.19.07 - 4:34 pm | #
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Gravatar Turtle:
You deserve nice. Politicians certainly do not.
rgl | 08.19.07 - 4:35 pm | #
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Gravatar CANADIANS,
Hey I graduated high school in Canada. Love you guys. I can still sing your national anthem and mean it.
So for every time I've sung that I "stand on guard for thee", well, now's my chance to make good on the oath.
Our antiglobalist people are starting to reach out and share research. Kids on YouTube are doing their best to show that Canada is alive and resisting.
I know, either directly or indirectly, pretty much everybody in the movement.
What do you guys need? Let's start talking. We'll build our own bridges and international cooperation. To tear these bastards downs we will.
I know what Canadians are made of. Strong stuff and solid values. Time to rock! Don't tell me you can't do it, you guys paddled a bunch of canoes and burned our White House down in the 1800s. And lived to tell the tale. That was sheer balls.
Oyate. | Homepage | 08.19.07 - 4:40 pm | #
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Gravatar Cat:
"...since the Canadian people are so much more superiour and moral than Americans."
I don't think I ever heard any canuck say that Canadians were morally superior to Americans, but I will readily admit that we trash your government whenever the opportunity arises.
I have myself complained about Americans boastful nationalistic nature, but I never said we were morally superior. Just a lot more laid-back.
I think we do have a better healthcare system.
Even with the NAU revelation(?) I still think we have a superior political system (five parties opposed to the two (one) party system the States employ.
For that reason I think we might be able to enjoy more success opposing this than Americans opposing their gov't do.
Time will tell.
rgl | 08.19.07 - 4:43 pm | #
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Gravatar @ Oyate:
You are a complete enigma to me. On one hand you can be the most callous, right-wing SOB I have ever heard.
With your very next post, you show an uncommon amount of intelligence and compassion. A true humanist.
What ARE you made of?
rgl | 08.19.07 - 4:47 pm | #
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Gravatar Our neighbors to the north must get off their butts,and raise hell if they want to protect themselves and their country and its resources because Bush and company are out to dupe their leaders into agreements they will live to regret. As for those of us who reside in the lower 48, when the papers are signed,we're buying vans to haul millions "legals" to Canada at $1000 a clip to take your jobs and tankers by the 1000's to haul your resources back to the states, guarded all the way by U.S. troops who will have full access to both Canada and Mexico. You have been warned.
Keith in NC | 08.19.07 - 4:51 pm | #
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Gravatar Oyate:
Addendum to my last. If you have read the posts here, then you have read mine where I agree with one world government. Done by consent, not coercion.
Up til right now, I thought I 'knew' you. Presumtious, but there you have it.
I would like your thoughts on the matter, when you get a moment.
rgl | 08.19.07 - 4:52 pm | #
Gravatar The fact is that most of this already existed as administrative accords. For example, as inexplicable as it may be, Canadian F-16s patrolled the skies over New York after 9-11. A thousand hospital beds were made available in my region for victims of 9-11. Security cooperation has existed since the late 70s, including the sharing of personal and confidential information. NORAD has always evolved and gathered more power. There was no need for a Binational agreement, since these plans have existed now, for ages.
NO.
Canadians have always been blackmailed by our close friends and dear neighbors. If we do not comply with their wishes, there will be slowdowns at the border and businesses will lose money, the same businesses that contribute largely to the political structure. Consider the hardwood litigation. The US kept us in litigation for years and the money owed to Canadian companies was kept in trust. When these companies faltered financially, they were picked up by US companies at a bargain. The US lost its obviously bogus case, and still decided not to pay the entire sums owed. If we didn't accept, we could expect troubles at the border.
The same for the bogus homeland security deal. We comply or else.
This is but a symptom. Without globalization, there would be little need for such coordination.
Yes be nice, since if you're not, you won't be taken seriously and may not be read. Running with your hair on fire may lose you calories, but you may get some awful dandruff from it. Be intelligent, that should be disconcerting to the lot of them.
I doubt that Canadians require advise from people who would let their officials get away with such criminal behavior for so long. A people who would accept the condoning of torture, the abandonment of all human rights and of the Geneva principles. We are by no means perfect, but we hopefully will find a way to stay together and face down the barbarians at the door.
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Turtle | 08.19.07 - 4:55 pm | #
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Gravatar rgl,
It sounds like you ought to start thrashing your own government around very quickly or you may be sorry. Now is not the time to be attacking average joe/janes of US. You may be able to hold it off, but I think you have alot of work cut out for you. Good Luck.
Cat | 08.19.07 - 4:57 pm | #
Gravatar Turtle,
It should not matter if you are blackmailed or Corporations are doing this or that. The Canadian people should stand up to their government. You need to wake the Average Canadian up!! Isn't that what people say of Americans? Americans are guilty of the crimes the state commits? Already you guys agreed to Nafta. Well, I'm sure the nafta card will be played more and more. People do not realize that under Nafta a corporation's "rights" TRUMP all government's laws if it finds those laws interfere with profit. It Trumps all Jury decisions, parliamentary rulings, state laws, etc. The Canadian people allowed this, now they are going to start paying the price, like Americans have.
If Canadians allow such as Nafta and any movement towards NAU they only have THEMSELVES to blame.
Frankly, I don't care if we take you guys over. If we do its because "You deserve it for not standing up".
Cat | 08.19.07 - 5:06 pm | #
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Gravatar Cat:
Agreed. And again, just for the record, I think you will find that I don't trash John/Jane yank. I have defended your people in uniform. I have pointed out that America HAS done great things in the past. But I will readily admit that I have railed against your government's treatment of minorities, your sub-standard education system, healthcare system, and yes, the list goes on.
But these are complaints against your government, not the people enslaved by that government.
And in truth, I have verbally 'accosted' the occasional yank personally for spouting rightwing, neocon bullshit. Guilty as charged. But we have them up here too.
And I have no problem bringing a fellow Canadian up short when I think (s)he needs it.
But yes, it seems we have some dogshit we must scoop out of our own backyard now, doesn't it?
rgl | 08.19.07 - 5:12 pm | #
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Gravatar From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli....
Canada has oil and water. Additionally, thanks to global warming, Canada will soon, within ten to fifty years from today, be in possession of the mythical Northwest Passage. The wealth that will be generated in northern Canada from commerce and resource extraction is simply stunning to contemplate.
Now Canada must yield those resources to U.S. corporate exploitation.
GORBALT | 08.19.07 - 5:19 pm | #
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Gravatar Turtle:
Actually, T, the security arrangement you speak of has been in existance since 1815.
Upon the conclusion of the War of 1812, a bilateral military commission was enacted to settle border disputes, and like grievances and to prevent another war on this continent.
Canada does not possess F16s. Our main combat aircraft is the F18 Hornet, Canadian designation, CF18.
That is not to say that we did not have combat aircraft in the skies, we did, but I believe Canadian a/c were 'restricted' to Canadian airspace.
Ditto, we may have had Canadian pilots tooling around in American F16s, but I am unaware of any joint combat squadrons in existance.
I am not disputing you. I simply don't know the facts. But it would greatly surprise me to find Canadian pilots patrolling the skies of America, outside of the existing Canadian presence at NORAD.
rgl | 08.19.07 - 5:22 pm | #
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Gravatar Scooping up dogshit. Right there.
We can do it by yelling and risk not being heard or speak with one clear voice and perhaps change things.
I was involved in the letter writing campaign last year to protest Harper's Lebanon statement. We changed some minds by being firm but respectful and intelligent.
Up to you to decide, maybe this time treating elected officials like shit will work. Who knows? I suspect that the decent ones already feel that way.
I will attempt to communicate ideas and ideals and work to see the present government fall. That's me, what can I say?
T.
Turtle | 08.19.07 - 5:25 pm | #
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Gravatar @ Turtle:
One more aside here. I think it was Kissinger who said that nations do not have friends, only interests.
rgl | 08.19.07 - 5:25 pm | #
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Gravatar Turtle:
Admittedly, I am new to the protest thing.
I would welcome any advice you may have with regard to a effective campaign. Letters, protests, whatever.
What worked for you last time, please?
rgl | 08.19.07 - 5:28 pm | #
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Gravatar Dear Mr. Chossudovsky,
I think you should recall that we are in the 21st century and annexing other lands are not acceptable anymore. Even few hundreds years ago ( and not thousands years ago) when Russia's empire attacked Iran to annex Azerbaijan, there was a war for it. You are either with us or against us. Canada can not be with Russia (is this independence). Russia already attacked Canada. U.S. is far more better option and if you think being independent is that Canada let the North Pole goes to Russia , YOU ARE DEAD WRONG!
Frank | 08.19.07 - 5:29 pm | #
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Gravatar This is the Canadian Moment. Either they remain a sovereign nation and stand up NOW and rid themselves of nafta and BPG and the possible American take over, Or they resign themselves as "Vichy Canada".
DISGUSTED CANADIAN:
I too, did everything you have mentioned, I wrote all over the place even local editorial boards. Nothing happened. Now, the Canadians may understand some of our (the people who have spoken out) frustrations. Even people like Cindy Sheehan could not break through our governments/State/Corpo mind set. She did raise awareness though.
Cat | 08.19.07 - 5:33 pm | #
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Gravatar Indeed.
You are correct about the CF-18s.
However you are incorrect about them patrolling over NY city. It was in all the papers at the time.
The security agreement I was referring to had to do with the exchange of private confidential information of citizens. That was passed in the late 70s, if recollection serves, and I protested it in the 80s when the Globe had an article about it.
It was indeed, old Henry who came up with that, right before he spoke of a "Peace offensive", which made peace just another weapon of war.
and so it goes....
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Turtle | 08.19.07 - 5:35 pm | #
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Gravatar rgl - yes, as you say, at least Canada has that advantage of not quite being stuck in a 2-party system (or, effectively, the one-party system across your border).
So there's no insurmountable impediment or good excuse for failing to stop US hegemonic creep.
Trudeau would have known what to do a long time ago but given that now you've lumbered yourselves with this Harper creature, you'll have to engage your fundamental adversaries directly; they are among the mostly keenly interested parties in US domination: your major corporations.
Just for (activist) reference, some of them are cited in another article here from the Hill Times:
* Dominic D'Alessandro - president: Manulife Financial ( + vice chairman: Canadian Council of Chief Executives, director: Canadian Life & Health Insurance Association)
* Paul Desmarais, Jr. - vice chairman: Power Corporation of Canada
* David Ganong - director: Ganong Bros. Ltd. ( + director: Canadian Council of Chief Executive Officers, chairman / board of governers: University of New Brunswick, director: Sun Life Financial, director: Conference Board of Canada, chairman: New Brunswick Business Council)
* Richard George – president: Suncor Energy Inc. ( + chair: Canadian Council of Chief Executives, board member: GlobalSantaFe Corporation)
* E. Hunter Harrison - president & CEO: CN ( + member: Canadian Council of Chief Executives)
* Linda Hasenfratz - CEO: Linamar Corporation (NACC chair)
* Michael Sabia - president/CEO: Bell Canada Enterprises ( + BCE, Bell Canada/ International, Aliant Regional etc., director: Thomson Corporation)
* Jim Shepherd - president/CEO: Canfor Corporation
* Annette Verschuren - president: Home Depot ( + chancellor: University College of Cape Breton)
* Rick Waugh - president/CEO: Scotiabank ( + board: Institute for International Finance, Chairman's Advisory Council for the Council of the Americas, IMF Capital Markets Consultative Group)
blizzard | 08.19.07 - 5:36 pm | #
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Gravatar Sorry rgl,
I meant that in a general way about thrashing average joe/janes. I have heard that from alot of Canadians. Not you. My daughter no longer likes to go to Canada because she said everytime she and her friends gets "yelled" at about her government, even though she tells them she does not support it (and too, she is young, only been able to vote in one election so far).
Ya, I agree with you. The racism is still prevalent and the health system leaves out 50 million americans.
Cat | 08.19.07 - 5:41 pm | #
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Gravatar rgl,
What the clever Lebanese Canadians did last year was to get a website together called Peacecry.net
http://peacecry.net/index.php? ti...title=Main_Page
There they could get together and exchange ideas and react together to the responses from MPs, some were downright disgusting BTW.
I expect that starting something like that and inviting all Canadians we know might be useful.
What do you think?
T.
Turtle | 08.19.07 - 5:50 pm | #
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Gravatar For concerned Canadians, USans, Mexicans:
Gravatar Well all I can say right now is, maybe in the future it will be to canadas benefit if close cooperation with the United States is followed. Islamic extremist respect no one, as the British have learned. Although I do not agree with my country on the decision to attack Iraq, the terrorist threat is real and will get worse. Wait until they acquire chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons, then it will a different world. Both canada and america will have to stick together if they want to survive. A large scale attack with thousands of casualtys will disrupt the economy of both nations.
Just so you know, most Americans love you guys, our Northern neighbors.
Richard | 08.19.07 - 6:20 pm | #
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Gravatar Dear Richard...Wake up (with all due respect), smell the bullcrap and lies! The terrorist threat is a hoax. 9/11 was a false flag operation and I can guess the next one is coming soon. See if you can get the DVD, Zeitgeist, or any other that lays bare the truth of 9/11, Afghyanistan, Iraq etc etc. Try 911DVDproject.com.....free or a small donation..well worth the buck.
Don't let the bastards scare you into giving up any more rights.
Willy Bill | 08.19.07 - 6:40 pm | #
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Gravatar Richard,
Time to find out who's behind the "Islamic extremists" if you don't already know. Most of us reading ICH know that the "terrorist threat" is propaganda by the "man behind the curtain" to frighten us into going along with their plan for global government, and the NAU is a stepping stone on the way. If there is a large-scale attack, which IS likely in the works (judging from "gut feelings" and phony bin Laden videos) I, for one, will know where to look for the culprits.
warispeace | 08.19.07 - 6:51 pm | #
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Gravatar This reminds me eerily of Johnathan Westminster's "15% Solution: A political History of American Fascism, 2001-2022." Published in 1996, this is ostensibly a history written in 2046 of the Christo-fascist takeover of the govt beginning in 2000. The "history" tells of amendments to the Constitution which are eerily prescient of bush's executive orders and signing statements that have shredded our constitution, gutted our civil rights, made a mockery of our checks-and-balances form of govt. And oh yes, the annexation of Canada, for its resources, of course. And more. Oddly enough, the author did not anticipate the war in the Middle East, but did anticipate the war on the lower and middle class, and on homosexuals, etc., the isolation of blacks, Hispanics, etc. and although he did not anticipate bush himself, he did recount the election of President Pine! Whenever I read of another order or edict by bush, I feel chills and go back to this book to see how it happened in this account. This admin has everything in place to declare martial law (with Blackwater, et al) and finally eliminate our democracy. Brave New World, 1984, Jack London's "Iron Heel," and Sinclair Lewis's "It Can't Happen Here," have nothing on what is really happening now. Oh, and what about the movie, "Enemy of the State?"
Juanita M Cutler | 08.19.07 - 7:06 pm | #
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Gravatar Canadian voters OUGHT to deny Stephen Harper his majority.
There have been many over the years who have sold us out.
It is happening all over the Western World.
It won't stop now.
Globalization won't work if enough people are angry and prepared to do something.
Derek | 08.19.07 - 7:11 pm | #
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Gravatar Richard,
The "terrorist threat to America" is every bit as real as the threat from the weapons of mass destruction posed to America by Sadam. It is 98% a media generated illusion, used to justify a state of endless war while enabling the US to control the oil of the middle east. If you beleive "They hate us because of our freedoms", then you are beyond hope.
Read the FBI definition of terrorism. Terrorism is what you do. It is actions - Not whether you wear a bhurka or turban. The US is the most guilty of terrorism:-
"Terrorism: the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives." - FBI.
The terrorist threat to the middle east from the US is very very real. Iraq, a country that had a better medical and education system than the US has been totally destroyed. Destruction of Iran may well be about to take place.
Stephen Braithwaite | Homepage | 08.19.07 - 7:18 pm | #
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a | 08.19.07 - 7:58 pm | #
Gravatar Michel Chossu...
Price you pay for killing all those First Nations peoples.
a reader | 08.19.07 - 8:00 pm | #
Gravatar I am so sick to my stomach. I knew that Harper should NEVER had been elected for anything... in fact he should have been thrown into the US to become a puppet of his master Bush. What a travesty! When people say Canada and the US are the "same thing", I will no longer be able to disagree. HOW UNFORTUNATE... MOST UNFORTUNATE.
excuse me will I throw up
orange | 08.19.07 - 8:02 pm | #
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Gravatar OK, so now where am I supposed to move to? No refuge from the psychopath politicians and corporate murderers in Canada now.
Norway is sounding pretty darn good...
I am truly sorry Canada because this SUCKS ASS!!!!!
jamie | 08.19.07 - 8:09 pm | #
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Gravatar Canada has never been a sovereign nation, so what's to lose? The US and Britain has always dictated their will through ownership and a parliament subservient to the Queen of England since colonial times. The population consists of 95-98% working-class of Canada, the US and Britain as in the rest of the world, the workers own no countries they can legitimately call their own. They are subject to exploitation through wage slavery and the dictates of the international profiting elites who actually own all the world and exploit all through the Capitalist's money wages, prices, profit world market system.
Canada's role is of late, merely changing from loyal handmaiden of the US to one of promised marriage complying with the perverse wishes of her elephant lover with a donkey's appendage. Such will be the case the world over till the working-class organize for the replacement of Capitalism's private property based system of profiting an elite class of owners at the expense of the labors of the workers and environmentally destructive profit oriented results with extremely wasteful consumption of the worlds natural resources. Such madness must cease for a sane democratic, humane society to prevail.
To establish a volunteer, money-less, production for USE (not for profit) economy. To satisfy the needs of all humanity without discrimination. Where the by-words of socialism will take full effect. "From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs."
Bill Johnson | Homepage | 08.19.07 - 8:21 pm | #
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Gravatar Blame yourselves, Canada! Didn't you put a Conservative Right-Winger in charge of your lives and didn't I tell you the same corrupt policies that are stripping us of our liberties would come to you next compliments of conservatism?
ShowMetheOIL | 08.19.07 - 9:47 pm | #
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Gravatar rgl, what tha...? World government, survival of the species. Goddamn, the over bloated population of this planet of humans is the direct and indirect cause of 99% of the problems on the planet and you and everyone else thinking that things will settle down and we can keep mass producing babies and the world will be happy and perfect is totally WRONG.
Maybe if Bangledesh(sp) has to evacuate 190,000,000 of its population they can be absorbed into the new N.A Union. What complete crap. NO ONE sees the problem of the human population and that makes ANY plan for survival, solution of any problems and hopes for a brilliant future just the same as pissing in the wind.
The elite do see this and they understand for a brilliant future for people means nothing short of having the masses die off so that what is left is left for them. Imagine a world with only 10 to 20 million people on it.
Beware of the push for more and better automation and robotics.
Willy Bill,
Keep hoping about bush and co. being stopped because it ain't gonna happen. Don't you think with the dems getting control of the house and senate that is would happen by now or at least some of his sorry good for nothing laws would not get passed? The little trick there is the blue dog group that votes bush's way on most all bills. These are democrats supposedly but are in reality republicans masquerading as democrats. You know kind of like Lieberman. And if that isn't enough, consider the high probability of w and co. orchastrating another attack on America so he can pull his little dictator in charge directive he signed and he has in my opinion up to Jan. 7th or 8th to do it. And if that won't do it, now with the SPOTUS stacked with criminals that should be in prison for the illegal decision to make w president in 2000, they can call any shot they want for the little corporal.
So can anyone come up with a real solution for a better world?
Good luck!
samosamo | 08.19.07 - 10:06 pm | #
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